From drgenelmt at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 16:02:27 2010
From: drgenelmt at gmail.com (Gene Desepoli)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:02:27 -0400
Subject: [joomla] php MySQL
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>

Hi
I am considering hiring someone to 
develop an extensive online quiz program 
with php/MySQL.  I am not sure if it 
would be a good idea to use Joomla as 
the website for this application or if I 
should leave it up to the developer to 
create a new website.

Are there any considerations I shoudl be 
aware of if using Joomla?

Thanks
Gene

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> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
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> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>
> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
> > From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
> designer and users manuals.
>
> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
> their core to grow their end user community.
>
> Fred Sullivan
> @fredjet
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> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
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>
> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>
>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
> than just Joomla.
>
> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>
> -- Mitch
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>
>>
>>
> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>
> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>
> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>   Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions directory,
> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
> your looking for more clearly.
>
> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
> still prefer Joomla.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>
> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
> > From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
> designer and users manuals.
>
> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
> their core to grow their end user community.
>
> Fred Sullivan
> @fredjet
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>
>
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
> than just Joomla.
>
> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>
> -- Mitch
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>
>>
>>
> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>
> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>
> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>   Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions directory,
> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
> your looking for more clearly.
>
> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
> still prefer Joomla.
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From drgenelmt at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 16:02:30 2010
From: drgenelmt at gmail.com (Gene Desepoli)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:02:30 -0400
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 18
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <4C572456.5030206@gmail.com>

Hi
I am considering hiring someone to develop an extensive online quiz 
program with php/MySQL.  I am not sure if it would be a good idea to use 
Joomla as the website for this application or if I should leave it up to 
the developer to create a new website.

Are there any considerations I shoudl be aware of if using Joomla?

Thanks
Gene

On 7/31/10 12:00 PM, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
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>     1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>     2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>     3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>     4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
> To:joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>
> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
> > From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
> designer and users manuals.
>
> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
> their core to grow their end user community.
>
> Fred Sullivan
> @fredjet
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> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
> To:joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>
>    
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>> 	<AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>>      
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
> than just Joomla.
>
> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>
> -- Mitch
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
> Message-ID:
> 	<AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>
>    
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>
>>
>>      
> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>
> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>
> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>   Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions directory,
> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
> your looking for more clearly.
>
> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
> still prefer Joomla.
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From chris at theendrecords.com  Mon Aug  2 17:12:41 2010
From: chris at theendrecords.com (Chris TheEnd)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 16:12:41 -0500
Subject: [joomla] php MySQL
In-Reply-To: <4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49B079A1-8DC0-43F2-831F-3A48334EC54A@theendrecords.com>

Joomla! could be a good place to start. 

However if you go the Joomla! route you could just extend  another polls project and offer it back to the community.  

One consideration is if you go that route, hire someone familiar with Joomla! not just php.


Chris
On Aug 2, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Gene Desepoli wrote:

> Hi
> I am considering hiring someone to
> develop an extensive online quiz program
> with php/MySQL.  I am not sure if it
> would be a good idea to use Joomla as
> the website for this application or if I
> should leave it up to the developer to
> create a new website.
> 
> Are there any considerations I shoudl be
> aware of if using Joomla?
> 
> Thanks
> Gene
> 
> On 7/31/10 12:00 PM,
> joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
>> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
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>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>>    2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>>    3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>>    4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
>> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTi=fpH+__6SHpF1ZEEHkNizs3ZmuTf-jhwWdxfDd at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
>> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
>> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
>>> From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
>> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
>> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
>> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
>> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
>> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
>> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
>> designer and users manuals.
>> 
>> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
>> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
>> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
>> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
>> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
>> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
>> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
>> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
>> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
>> their core to grow their end user community.
>> 
>> Fred Sullivan
>> @fredjet
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>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
>> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>> 
>> 
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>> Message-ID:
>>>     <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
>> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> 
>> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
>> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
>> than just Joomla.
>> 
>> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>> 
>> -- Mitch
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>> 
>> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
>> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
>> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
>> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
>> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>> 
>> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
>> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>>  Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
>> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
>> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions directory,
>> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
>> your looking for more clearly.
>> 
>> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
>> still prefer Joomla.
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
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>> 
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>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
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>> **************************************
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> On 7/31/10 12:00 PM,
> joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
>> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
>>      joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> 
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>      http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
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>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..."
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>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>>    2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>>    3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>>    4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
>> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTi=fpH+__6SHpF1ZEEHkNizs3ZmuTf-jhwWdxfDd at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>> 
>> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
>> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
>> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
>>> From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
>> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
>> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
>> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
>> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
>> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
>> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
>> designer and users manuals.
>> 
>> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
>> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
>> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
>> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
>> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
>> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
>> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
>> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
>> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
>> their core to grow their end user community.
>> 
>> Fred Sullivan
>> @fredjet
>> -------------- next part --------------
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>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
>> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>> 
>> 
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>> 
>> 
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>> Message-ID:
>>>     <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
>> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>> 
>> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
>> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
>> than just Joomla.
>> 
>> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>> 
>> -- Mitch
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>>      <AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>> 
>> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
>> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
>> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
>> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
>> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>> 
>> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
>> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>>  Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
>> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
>> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions directory,
>> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
>> your looking for more clearly.
>> 
>> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
>> still prefer Joomla.
>> -------------- next part --------------
>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
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>> 
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>> **************************************
>> 
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From steve at sbritton.com  Mon Aug  2 17:19:11 2010
From: steve at sbritton.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 17:19:11 -0400
Subject: [joomla] php MySQL
In-Reply-To: <49B079A1-8DC0-43F2-831F-3A48334EC54A@theendrecords.com>
References: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>
	<49B079A1-8DC0-43F2-831F-3A48334EC54A@theendrecords.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimJNiVtfcMAgpQbewfYttPynTqr+0M9wPVg2nM0@mail.gmail.com>

If you use Joomla, you may not have to hire a programmer. There is a
good chance that a quiz program with your requirements has already
been developed.

I just checked the extension listings on Joomla.org and there are many
quiz programs.

Take a look.

http://extensions.joomla.org/search?q=quiz






On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Chris TheEnd <chris at theendrecords.com> wrote:
> Joomla! could be a good place to start.
>
> However if you go the Joomla! route you could just extend ?another polls project and offer it back to the community.
>
> One consideration is if you go that route, hire someone familiar with Joomla! not just php.
>
>
> Chris
> On Aug 2, 2010, at 4:02 PM, Gene Desepoli wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> I am considering hiring someone to
>> develop an extensive online quiz program
>> with php/MySQL. ?I am not sure if it
>> would be a good idea to use Joomla as
>> the website for this application or if I
>> should leave it up to the developer to
>> create a new website.
>>
>> Are there any considerations I shoudl be
>> aware of if using Joomla?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Gene
>>
>> On 7/31/10 12:00 PM,
>> joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
>>> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
>>> ? ? ?joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>>>
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>> ? ? ?http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> ? ? ?joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org
>>>
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>>> ? ? ?joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org
>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> ? ?1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>>> ? ?2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>>> ? ?3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>>> ? ?4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
>>> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
>>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ? ?<AANLkTi=fpH+__6SHpF1ZEEHkNizs3ZmuTf-jhwWdxfDd at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>>>
>>> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
>>> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
>>> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
>>>> From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
>>> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
>>> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
>>> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
>>> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
>>> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
>>> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
>>> designer and users manuals.
>>>
>>> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
>>> has ?been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
>>> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
>>> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
>>> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
>>> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
>>> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
>>> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
>>> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
>>> their core to grow their end user community.
>>>
>>> Fred Sullivan
>>> @fredjet
>>> -------------- next part --------------
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>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
>>> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
>>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>>> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> ? ? <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
>>> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ? ?<AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
>>> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
>>> than just Joomla.
>>>
>>> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>>>
>>> -- Mitch
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ? ?<AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net> ?wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>>>
>>> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
>>> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
>>> to. ?One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
>>> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
>>> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>>>
>>> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
>>> Joomla.... ?terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>>> ?Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
>>> different things. ?Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
>>> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup. ?The Joomla extensions directory,
>>> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
>>> your looking for more clearly.
>>>
>>> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
>>> still prefer Joomla.
>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
>>> URL:<http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100730/0a072956/attachment-0001.html>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>
>>> End of joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 18
>>> **************************************
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> On 7/31/10 12:00 PM,
>> joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
>>> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
>>> ? ? ?joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>>>
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>>> ? ? ?http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>> ? ? ?joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org
>>>
>>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>>> ? ? ?joomla-owner at lists.nyphp.org
>>>
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>>> than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..."
>>>
>>>
>>> Today's Topics:
>>>
>>> ? ?1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>>> ? ?2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>>> ? ?3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>>> ? ?4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
>>> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
>>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ? ?<AANLkTi=fpH+__6SHpF1ZEEHkNizs3ZmuTf-jhwWdxfDd at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>>>
>>> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 2010 to
>>> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local version and
>>> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with Drupal.
>>>> From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's coding,
>>> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the attendees
>>> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
>>> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many things it
>>> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher technical
>>> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
>>> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books are end
>>> designer and users manuals.
>>>
>>> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
>>> has ?been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
>>> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more on basic
>>> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. Joomla as
>>> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate in the
>>> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla community needs
>>> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid level
>>> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
>>> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including more in
>>> their core to grow their end user community.
>>>
>>> Fred Sullivan
>>> @fredjet
>>> -------------- next part --------------
>>> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
>>> URL:<http://lists.nyphp.org/pipermail/joomla/attachments/20100730/3f536e2d/attachment-0001.html>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
>>> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
>>> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>>> Message-ID:<1280513123.6594.21.camel at jersey>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Message: 2
>>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>>> Message-ID:
>>>> ? ? <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 3
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
>>> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ? ?<AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>>
>>> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
>>> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
>>> than just Joomla.
>>>
>>> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>>>
>>> -- Mitch
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> Message: 4
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>>> Message-ID:
>>> ? ? ?<AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net> ?wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>>>
>>> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now after
>>> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I wanted it
>>> to. ?One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
>>> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than Magento[in
>>> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>>>
>>> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on Drupal vs
>>> Joomla.... ?terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know what.
>>> ?Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
>>> different things. ?Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
>>> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup. ?The Joomla extensions directory,
>>> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know what
>>> your looking for more clearly.
>>>
>>> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of Drupal....but I
>>> still prefer Joomla.
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From douglas at focalizar.com.br  Mon Aug  2 17:25:40 2010
From: douglas at focalizar.com.br (Douglas Machado -Focalizar.com.br)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:25:40 -0300
Subject: [joomla] php MySQL
In-Reply-To: <4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org> 
	<4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikhw=NFytHjrkPzjYSXH9aCp-eMoz9qV=wt2TXo@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Gene,

Joomla is a great framework and I would probably use Joomla for this quiz
program.
All my new Joomla projects are for Joomla 1.6 and I recommend you to do the
same if you decide to use Joomla.

Kind regards,

Douglas Machado
Joomla Custom Software Development <http://ideal.fok.com.br>.
"*Because your steadfast love is better than life, my lips will praise you.*"
- Psalm 63:3
"*... saying what people are used to hear changes nobody*" - Pr. John Piper
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From scott at wolpow.com  Mon Aug  2 17:26:25 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 17:26:25 -0400
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 18
In-Reply-To: <4C572456.5030206@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<4C572456.5030206@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C573801.9080808@wolpow.com>

Joomla would offer you a method to control the users, but the quiz part 
has other considerations.
Is the test going to be progressive?
Will each question depend on previous questions?
Will the questions be weighted in terms of difficulty?
Will they be random?
I once designed a quiz system that allowed for different variables so 
that no two tests were every the same.
ie if Bob left NY at 8:00 driving at 55 mph heading south on 95 and 
George entered 95 north 100 miles due south and he was traveling 65 mph 
what time will they pass each other [no traffic or tolls].
The test would change all the numbers each time.

Scott Wolpow

On 8/2/2010 4:02 PM, Gene Desepoli wrote:
> Hi
> I am considering hiring someone to develop an extensive online quiz 
> program with php/MySQL.  I am not sure if it would be a good idea to 
> use Joomla as the website for this application or if I should leave it 
> up to the developer to create a new website.
>
> Are there any considerations I shoudl be aware of if using Joomla?
>
> Thanks
> Gene
>
> On 7/31/10 12:00 PM, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
>> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
>>     joomla at lists.nyphp.org
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>>     1. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Fred Sullivan)
>>     2. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Mark Simko)
>>     3. Re: Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Mitch Pirtle)
>>     4. Re: joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17 (Gary Mort)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:17:04 -0400
>> From: Fred Sullivan<fred at avdrive.com>
>> To:joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> 2. Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective (Gary Mort)
>>
>> Amazing post, Thank You! I went to one day of the Drupal Camp NYC 
>> 2010 to
>> learn and observe. In the days before the camp installed local 
>> version and
>> created a test site. It had been a while since I had done that with 
>> Drupal.
>> > From an integrators perspective it is mature and elegant in it's 
>> coding,
>> documentation and user community a much higher percentage of the 
>> attendees
>> where actual coders/developers than at a equivalent Joomla event. But
>> compared to Joomla as far as getting up a basic site to do many 
>> things it
>> was much more time consuming and involved and takes a much higher 
>> technical
>> proficiency. It is reflected in the book shelf at say Barnes and Noble
>> almost all Drupal books are for developers, almost all Joomla books 
>> are end
>> designer and users manuals.
>>
>> Joomla's object oriented approach is much more advanced and abstract and
>> has  been much more and it has been set up to be more designer and user
>> friendly thus there are more users less community. Drupal much more 
>> on basic
>> level programmer friendly for a beginning to average programmer. 
>> Joomla as
>> percentage has in number fewer coders and developers that participate 
>> in the
>> community but the ones that do are very advanced. The Joomla 
>> community needs
>> to work much harder at Joomla developer training of beginning and mid 
>> level
>> programmers to flourish. Drupal needs to work much harder at getting a
>> friendlier interface for designers and users probably by including 
>> more in
>> their core to grow their end user community.
>>
>> Fred Sullivan
>> @fredjet
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>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:05:23 -0400
>> From: Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>
>> To:joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
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>>
>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>
>>> Message: 2
>>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:21:59 -0400
>>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>>> Subject: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <AANLkTindy3JBPnjBdiOsF1y15zFYATnmq3D+1fQi+aor at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:06:36 -0400
>> From: Mitch Pirtle<mitch.pirtle at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] Joomla vs Drupal, a coders perspective
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTikbLmKXaJUz_EN6g6Ej8=zkYOrcWiQ=yxjCjcdB at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>>
>> To be fair, the whole "not invented here" syndrome is prevalent in the
>> web development world overall, and plagues a great many more projects
>> than just Joomla.
>>
>> I still think that completely sucks though. :-)
>>
>> -- Mitch
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:25:46 -0400
>> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
>> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 43, Issue 17
>> Message-ID:
>> <AANLkTikztFnSpWH2O_pOf=GPr_BPRV=UEyw7DjX6vdtV at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Mark Simko<masimko at verizon.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> Excellent! Gary, can you put this up on the JUG website?
>>>
>>>
>> I really want to clean it up a bit before posting it far and wide. :-)
>>
>> But I've been sitting on my thoughts for about a week and a half now 
>> after
>> doing a bunch of custom coding to get Ubercart to work the way I 
>> wanted it
>> to.  One thing I found nice was that it was a HECK of a lot easier than
>> Virtuemart to customize...and a LOT more nicely integrated than 
>> Magento[in
>> fact, we are currently using Magento and it completely sucks]
>>
>> So I figured I'd let em out in case others had their own input on 
>> Drupal vs
>> Joomla....  terminology is a real b......i....t......c.......you know 
>> what.
>>   Since both Drupal and Joomla have "modules" but they do completely
>> different things.  Plugins in Joomla are self-documenting to an extent,
>> while hooks in drupal you need to lookup.  The Joomla extensions 
>> directory,
>> for all my complaints, really shines while Drupal's you have to know 
>> what
>> your looking for more clearly.
>>
>> All in all.... I have a real appreciation for the power of 
>> Drupal....but I
>> still prefer Joomla.
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Mon Aug  2 18:58:15 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:58:15 -0400
Subject: [joomla] php MySQL
In-Reply-To: <4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1280592001.32571.joomla@lists.nyphp.org> 
	<4C572453.2070301@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=LV46E=bWZHaG=W1=wEq12oE8R=YQoPGuwRmRx@mail.gmail.com>

Limesurvey is THE PHP/MySQL open source survey application on the web..
http://www.limesurvey.org/

<http://www.limesurvey.org/>Joomla integration for it is....adequete.

Outside of that, consider Joomla components that provide what you need.

RedComponent has an interesting module for running competitions,
http://redcomponent.com/redcompetition

Having run a few of these "draw a random user" competitions, I can say that
having it all pre-packaged is certainly convenient.
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From kirill at hostnetservices.com  Mon Aug  2 20:56:40 2010
From: kirill at hostnetservices.com (Kirill Poliakov)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 20:56:40 -0400
Subject: [joomla] AUTO: Kirill Poliakov is out of the office. (returning
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From drgenelmt at gmail.com  Tue Aug  3 22:52:44 2010
From: drgenelmt at gmail.com (Gene Desepoli)
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:52:44 -0400
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 44, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1280851201.25776.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.3.1280851201.25776.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <4C58D5FC.9000906@gmail.com>

Perhaps a Inned to better explain what I'm trying to accomplish by 
having someone create an extensive Quiz/database program for my site.  
The following link shows a few sample tests, similar to what I'd like to 
use on my website.  In addition to that, you can see that, on that page, 
several quiz links are listed along with stats for each quiz.  I would 
probably have about 30 quizzes per page based on topics.

Woudl it be easy and feasable to incorporate that page into my Joomla 
site?  Would I use a wrapper to display a page like that, if I have 
someone else create a program for me.

Sorry if my questions seem "novice-like."  I am only an advanced 
beginner with Joomla.

Gene

On 8/3/10 12:00 PM, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
> Send joomla mailing list submissions to
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>
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> 	http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
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>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of joomla digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>     1. Re: php MySQL (Gary Mort)
>     2. AUTO: Kirill Poliakov is out of the office. (returning
>        08/05/2010) (Kirill Poliakov)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 18:58:15 -0400
> From: Gary Mort<garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: Re: [joomla] php MySQL
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Limesurvey is THE PHP/MySQL open source survey application on the web..
> http://www.limesurvey.org/
>
> <http://www.limesurvey.org/>Joomla integration for it is....adequete.
>
> Outside of that, consider Joomla components that provide what you need.
>
> RedComponent has an interesting module for running competitions,
> http://redcomponent.com/redcompetition
>
> Having run a few of these "draw a random user" competitions, I can say that
> having it all pre-packaged is certainly convenient.
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> From: Kirill Poliakov<kirill at hostnetservices.com>
> To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla"<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: [joomla] AUTO: Kirill Poliakov is out of the office.
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Wed Aug  4 23:07:56 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:07:56 -0400
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 44, Issue 3
In-Reply-To: <4C58D5FC.9000906@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.3.1280851201.25776.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
	<4C58D5FC.9000906@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSW+xzFR7Rv9BW3nOKXxA0GJBjpgevxvCoL19O@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Gene Desepoli <drgenelmt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Perhaps a Inned to better explain what I'm trying to accomplish by having
> someone create an extensive Quiz/database program for my site. ?The
> following link shows a few sample tests, similar to what I'd like to use on
> my website. ?In addition to that, you can see that, on that page, several
> quiz links are listed along with stats for each quiz. ?I would probably have
> about 30 quizzes per page based on topics.
>
> Woudl it be easy and feasable to incorporate that page into my Joomla site?
> ?Would I use a wrapper to display a page like that, if I have someone else
> create a program for me.

I suspect you could take advantage of an existing extension for Joomla
and save the effort. There are several forms extensions, and I do
believe some of the CCKs are smart enough for something like this as
well.

Anyone else on the list have a strong opinion on forms extensions -
what to use, what to avoid?

-- Mitch


From bbly1956 at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 01:29:14 2010
From: bbly1956 at gmail.com (William Bly)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 01:29:14 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security
Message-ID: <AANLkTinGyrxg3_8NsZ-GoCPKsGgQXE23_=jL9m6gbQM5@mail.gmail.com>

I hope I am not breaking any protocols with my question as I lurk more than
post.

A week ago I was handed a project at work (United Nations Division for
Sustainable Development) so I put together a Joomla site based on their
concept. The site has been well received with new request and my own
concerns.

   - Adding extensions, community, ACL, forms, surveys, blogs
   - Access to documents and multiple languages
   - Security
   - Linking to static sites and converting a large static site to a CMS

There are two sandbox and a live version running. We expect to have multiple
contributors adding content. I think this is the first site here using a
CMS. Only recently there have been evaluations here using PHP based Open
source platforms and the results were in favor of WordPress and Drupal.

If you have time to chat maybe lunch in Manhattan, I would be most grateful
for any insight.The project is for a conference on sustainable development
in 2012. I think Joomla is a great fit and would like to provide a good
solution here at the UN that will portray Open Source and Joomla positively.
We are located at 44th st. Two United Nations Plaza.

Thank you in advance - Bill Bly
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From steve at sbritton.com  Fri Aug  6 11:39:38 2010
From: steve at sbritton.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:39:38 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGyrxg3_8NsZ-GoCPKsGgQXE23_=jL9m6gbQM5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGyrxg3_8NsZ-GoCPKsGgQXE23_=jL9m6gbQM5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinANTQ4Jx5jAupabmg3a2jCPwbciDtH8HNBwXjG@mail.gmail.com>

Hi William,

I have been working with Joomla since late 2006 and agree that it is
probably the best for your purpose. If you want to develop a
community, there are several good extensions available. I like
Jomsocial, but it depends on the scope of your project.

Your plan calls for multiple contributors and Joomla's admin
structure, based on the newspaper editorial model, with Registered
Users, Authors, Editors and Administrators, is well suited for this
project.

I have done projects with Drupal, geared more towards coders with
extensive its database hooks, but not as user-friendly with a steep
learning curve, and WordPress, which is easy to extend and works fine
for blogs, but doesn't support the hierarchy framework that your
project requires.

It sounds like you have already done a lot of research on Joomla. Like
most big projects, it is best to have a good idea of what the audience
wants and how the contributors work before coming up with a design.

If you would like to talk more, I can make some time next week for
lunch. (I am not expecting much. A hot dog, a bottle of Poland Spring,
and a park bench in the shade is fine with me.)

You should also be aware that there is a very friendly Joomla user
group in New York. The next meeting should be next Thursday. You might
want to attend to meet other Joomla developers.

Let me know if you would like to meet and which day is good for you.

All the best,

Steve

On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 1:29 AM, William Bly <bbly1956 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I hope I am not breaking any protocols with my question as I lurk more than
> post.
>
> A week ago I was handed a project at work (United Nations Division for
> Sustainable Development) so I put together a Joomla site based on their
> concept. The site has been well received with new request and my own
> concerns.
>
> Adding extensions, community, ACL, forms, surveys, blogs
> Access to documents and multiple languages
> Security
> Linking to static sites and converting a large static site to a CMS
>
> There are two sandbox and a live version running. We expect to have multiple
> contributors adding content. I think this is the first site here using a
> CMS. Only recently there have been evaluations here using PHP based Open
> source platforms and the results were in favor of WordPress and Drupal.
>
> If you have time to chat maybe lunch in Manhattan, I would be most grateful
> for any insight.The project is for a conference on sustainable development
> in 2012. I think Joomla is a great fit and would like to provide a good
> solution here at the UN that will portray Open Source and Joomla positively.
> We are located at 44th st. Two United Nations Plaza.
>
> Thank you in advance - Bill Bly
>
> _______________________________________________
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Fri Aug  6 14:48:10 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:48:10 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinGyrxg3_8NsZ-GoCPKsGgQXE23_=jL9m6gbQM5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinGyrxg3_8NsZ-GoCPKsGgQXE23_=jL9m6gbQM5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C5C58EA.5080800@gmail.com>

On 8/6/2010 1:29 AM, William Bly wrote:

 > I think this is the first site here using a CMS.
 >Only recently there have been evaluations here using PHP based
 > Open source platforms and the results were in favor of WordPress and 
Drupal.

I know when we first started the Joomla NYC group, which meets every 
month at Lincoln Center currently, one of the members there worked at 
the U.N. and had deployed Joomla internally.

That said, I will say that the most important factor to me in choosing 
between Joomla and Drupal would be to evaluate what is already being 
used internally and to go with the CMS being used internally.

 From an end user point of view, Drupal is laid out in an easier to pick 
up on and use manner than Joomla[end user being your content editors and 
publishers].  From a configuration point of view, you will likely be 
able to get Joomla up to speed and running much more quickly than Drupal.


> I hope I am not breaking any protocols with my question as I lurk more 
> than post.
>
> A week ago I was handed a project at work (United Nations Division for 
> Sustainable Development) so I put together a Joomla site based on 
> their concept. The site has been well received with new request and my 
> own concerns.
>
>     * Adding extensions, community, ACL, forms, surveys, blogs
>

I recently posted my own comparison on these items.  You can find the 
same modules or components for both
CMS's....  Joomla will be much easier and faster to setup and configure, 
with less need for custom programming.  Drupal will take longer but for 
some of the more extreme intricacies will actually be faster to custom code.

>     * Access to documents and multiple languages
>

Joomla seems to have the edge here....being built with multiple 
languages in mind.  Though that may just be because I have yet to look 
extremely deepling into Drupal's language capabilities.

>     * Security
>     * Linking to static sites and converting a large static site to a CMS
>

Both Drupal and Joomla have import programs.  Also interestingly, if 
your running on Apache the default htaccess files, designed primarily 
for SEF links, have an added interesting component.  Both of them are 
designed to check for the existance of a file FIRST and use that, then 
if not found, redirect the connection to the CMS.

So, for example, say your structure is:

www/index.php <-- CMS entry point
www/articles/aboutus.html
www/articles/contactnumbers.html

Now, if someone is to try to go to:
http://www.mydomain.com/articles/aboutus.html they will be given the 
aboutus.html file
if they went to
http://www.mydomain.com/articles/about.html, since no about.html file 
exists, instead the index.php program is executed


So in the end, it is more about what is the best tool for your team, as 
either tool works.  My tendency is to use what others are using 
successfully if there is such deployed internally rather than create 
competing systems....that way internally it is easier to transfer skills.


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From scott at wolpow.com  Fri Aug  6 20:30:34 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 20:30:34 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Survey with results
Message-ID: <4C5CA92A.1020000@wolpow.com>

Has anyone found a good component that will allow me to ask a few 
questions, and assign a point value to each question. ie yes = 1, no =0
I am looking for a quick an easy way to make this interactive and give 
them a score

http://jfkaudio.zoeticdev.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=47&Itemid=54
-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow


From bbly1956 at gmail.com  Sat Aug  7 23:07:31 2010
From: bbly1956 at gmail.com (William Bly)
Date: Sat, 7 Aug 2010 23:07:31 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security (Gary Mort)(Stephen
	Britton)
Message-ID: <AANLkTiktdr11QTyJPPk2Q+e6zhHgMWtPxLOXVGv5uW5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 11:39:38 -0400
From: Stephen Britton <steve at sbritton.com>
To: "NYPHP SIG: Joomla" <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Subject: Re: [joomla] Adding extensions and security
Message-ID:
       <AANLkTinANTQ4Jx5jAupabmg3a2jCPwbciDtH8HNBwXjG at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi William,

I have been working with Joomla since late 2006 and agree that it is
probably the best for your purpose. If you want to develop a
community, there are several good extensions available. I like
Jomsocial, but it depends on the scope of your project.

Your plan calls for multiple contributors and Joomla's admin
structure, based on the newspaper editorial model, with Registered
Users, Authors, Editors and Administrators, is well suited for this
project.

I have done projects with Drupal, geared more towards coders with
extensive its database hooks, but not as user-friendly with a steep
learning curve, and WordPress, which is easy to extend and works fine
for blogs, but doesn't support the hierarchy framework that your
project requires.

It sounds like you have already done a lot of research on Joomla. Like
most big projects, it is best to have a good idea of what the audience
wants and how the contributors work before coming up with a design.

If you would like to talk more, I can make some time next week for
lunch. (I am not expecting much. A hot dog, a bottle of Poland Spring,
and a park bench in the shade is fine with me.)

You should also be aware that there is a very friendly Joomla user
group in New York. The next meeting should be next Thursday. You might
want to attend to meet other Joomla developers.

Let me know if you would like to meet and which day is good for you.

All the best,

Steve

Hi Steve -

I sent you an e-mail, any day next week will be great. We have only begun
with this so any advice moving forward will be most appreciated. Lunch here
will be easy plenty of options. Our office Two UN Plaza E44th near 1st Ave.

cell 919-434-7927
office 212-963-2570
bly at un.org

Looking forward to meeting with you. - Bill


> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:48:10 -0400
> From: Gary Mort <garyamort at gmail.com>
> To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
> Subject: Re: [joomla] Adding extensions and security
> Message-ID: <4C5C58EA.5080800 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"
>
> On 8/6/2010 1:29 AM, William Bly wrote:
>
>  > I think this is the first site here using a CMS.
>  >Only recently there have been evaluations here using PHP based
>  > Open source platforms and the results were in favor of WordPress and
> Drupal.
>
> I know when we first started the Joomla NYC group, which meets every
> month at Lincoln Center currently, one of the members there worked at
> the U.N. and had deployed Joomla internally.
>

Hi Gary

Thanks for the feedback I would certainly like to meet them especially if
they are still working at the UN. I am new here.

>
> That said, I will say that the most important factor to me in choosing
> between Joomla and Drupal would be to evaluate what is already being
> used internally and to go with the CMS being used internally.
>

There is no Open source being used or CMS similar as far as I know.

>
>  From an end user point of view, Drupal is laid out in an easier to pick
> up on and use manner than Joomla[end user being your content editors and
> publishers].  From a configuration point of view, you will likely be
> able to get Joomla up to speed and running much more quickly than Drupal.
>
>
> > I hope I am not breaking any protocols with my question as I lurk more
> > than post.
> >
> > A week ago I was handed a project at work (United Nations Division for
> > Sustainable Development) so I put together a Joomla site based on
> > their concept. The site has been well received with new request and my
> > own concerns.
> >
> >     * Adding extensions, community, ACL, forms, surveys, blogs
> >
>
> I recently posted my own comparison on these items.  You can find the
> same modules or components for both
> CMS's....  Joomla will be much easier and faster to setup and configure,
> with less need for custom programming.  Drupal will take longer but for
> some of the more extreme intricacies will actually be faster to custom
> code.
>

I read your  post it was helpful. I went with Joomla having used it for a
while since 2006. We were able to go live quickly last week and the site has
already been noted
http://climate-l.org/2010/08/06/uncsd-2012-website-launched/

>
> >     * Access to documents and multiple languages
> >
>
> Joomla seems to have the edge here....being built with multiple
> languages in mind.  Though that may just be because I have yet to look
> extremely deepling into Drupal's language capabilities.
>
> >     * Security
> >     * Linking to static sites and converting a large static site to a CMS
> >
>
> Both Drupal and Joomla have import programs.  Also interestingly, if
> your running on Apache the default htaccess files, designed primarily
> for SEF links, have an added interesting component.  Both of them are
> designed to check for the existance of a file FIRST and use that, then
> if not found, redirect the connection to the CMS.
>
> So, for example, say your structure is:
>
> www/index.php <-- CMS entry point
> www/articles/aboutus.html
> www/articles/contactnumbers.html
>
> Now, if someone is to try to go to:
> http://www.mydomain.com/articles/aboutus.html they will be given the
> aboutus.html file
> if they went to
> http://www.mydomain.com/articles/about.html, since no about.html file
> exists, instead the index.php program is executed
>
>
> So in the end, it is more about what is the best tool for your team, as
> either tool works.  My tendency is to use what others are using
> successfully if there is such deployed internally rather than create
> competing systems....that way internally it is easier to transfer skills.
>
Well according to those I am working with, we are breaking ground using a
CMS like this. I know there are many features that may suit our needs. I
offered a fast track solution that can be customized moving forward. I also
mentioned a terrific community that shares as is my experience attending
events and these replies.  - thanks   - Bill
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Sun Aug  8 06:54:20 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 07:54:20 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security (Gary Mort)(Stephen
	Britton)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiktdr11QTyJPPk2Q+e6zhHgMWtPxLOXVGv5uW5Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiktdr11QTyJPPk2Q+e6zhHgMWtPxLOXVGv5uW5Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPNYm5hu1+Jtb7nsRHtEX1c49Nxh8KZtpS1=NN@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone!

How's the planning for Joomla Day New York 2010?

-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From scott at wolpow.com  Sun Aug  8 09:35:16 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 09:35:16 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security (Gary
	Mort)(Stephen	Britton)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikPNYm5hu1+Jtb7nsRHtEX1c49Nxh8KZtpS1=NN@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTiktdr11QTyJPPk2Q+e6zhHgMWtPxLOXVGv5uW5Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikPNYm5hu1+Jtb7nsRHtEX1c49Nxh8KZtpS1=NN@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C5EB294.1000703@wolpow.com>

I am gearing up this week as I just finished a large project.
I need some help.
Scott Wolpow

On 8/8/2010 6:54 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> Hi everyone!
>
> How's the planning for Joomla Day New York 2010?
>
> -- 
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow 
<http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010>


From cozimek at picnet.net  Sun Aug  8 12:57:05 2010
From: cozimek at picnet.net (Ryan Ozimek)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 12:57:05 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security (Gary Mort)(Stephen
	Britton)
In-Reply-To: <4C5EB294.1000703@wolpow.com>
References: <AANLkTiktdr11QTyJPPk2Q+e6zhHgMWtPxLOXVGv5uW5Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikPNYm5hu1+Jtb7nsRHtEX1c49Nxh8KZtpS1=NN@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C5EB294.1000703@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <73B9CF88-DDFF-475F-8AD4-6350217733EE@picnet.net>

Hi folks,

Just to hop in out of the blue, the US has a JDay in SF on Oct 1-3 and  
one here in DC on Oct 16. Have you all solidified a date? If not, any  
chance it can be on a weekend other than those two?

Cheers!

Ryan

Sent wirelessly.

On Aug 8, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

> I am gearing up this week as I just finished a large project.
> I need some help.
> Scott Wolpow
>
> On 8/8/2010 6:54 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>> Hi everyone!
>>
>> How's the planning for Joomla Day New York 2010?
>>
>> -- 
>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
>> >
>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>
>> --- 
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
> -- 
> *Scott Wolpow*
> *718.275.7765*
> Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
> http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow <http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010 
> >
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php


From scott at wolpow.com  Sun Aug  8 13:07:50 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:07:50 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Adding extensions and security (Gary
	Mort)(Stephen	Britton)
Message-ID: <tmsq9ag9x8mm4e5w2asf81v5.1281287270056@email.android.com>

We had our dates oct 16 and 17th for months now. We are booked @ microsot

Ryan Ozimek <cozimek at picnet.net> wrote:

>Hi folks,
>
>Just to hop in out of the blue, the US has a JDay in SF on Oct 1-3 and  
>one here in DC on Oct 16. Have you all solidified a date? If not, any  
>chance it can be on a weekend other than those two?
>
>Cheers!
>
>Ryan
>
>Sent wirelessly.
>
>On Aug 8, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
>
>> I am gearing up this week as I just finished a large project.
>> I need some help.
>> Scott Wolpow
>>
>> On 8/8/2010 6:54 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>>> Hi everyone!
>>>
>>> How's the planning for Joomla Day New York 2010?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
>>> >
>>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>>
>>> --- 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>
>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>>
>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>> -- 
>> *Scott Wolpow*
>> *718.275.7765*
>> Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
>> http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow <http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010 
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>_______________________________________________
>New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
>NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
>Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>

From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  8 17:25:45 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sun, 8 Aug 2010 14:25:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Joomla Users Group meeting this week -- Thur., Aug. 12,
	2010
Message-ID: <43127.53295.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Meeting: 6:30-8:30, 70 Lincoln Center Plaza (The Rose Building), 9th Floor *


	* The Big Undo button -- Mitch Pirtle will be presenting The Big Undo button -- 
something we always need! 

	* Joomla 1.6 -- Elin Waring will be speaking about 1.6.  Elin  presented 1.6 
last month but there is so much to cover!  It was  fascinating and we look 
forward to hearing more.
	* MetaTemplate -- Stephen Brandon, developer of MetaTemplate, will be 
presenting remotely.  (to be confirmed)

Networking: 8:30-9:30

Location: 70 Lincoln Center Plaza (The Rose Building), 9th Floor,  Executive 
Conference Room, New York, NY  10023
(when you exit the elevators turn to the left, there will be signs)

Directions:
MTA's mobile trip planner: http://tripplanner.mta.info/mobile 
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Mon Aug  9 09:35:38 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:35:38 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Date confirmed, then?
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=5eEVostV-cWn4arsFX=O-uQ5Ns8KbS4ZRMyKp@mail.gmail.com>

JDNYC will be on the Oct 16th-17th weekend?

2010/8/8 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>

> We had our dates oct 16 and 17th for months now. We are booked @ microsot
>
> Ryan Ozimek <cozimek at picnet.net> wrote:
>
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >Just to hop in out of the blue, the US has a JDay in SF on Oct 1-3 and
> >one here in DC on Oct 16. Have you all solidified a date? If not, any
> >chance it can be on a weekend other than those two?
> >
> >Cheers!
> >
> >Ryan
> >
> >Sent wirelessly.
> >
> >On Aug 8, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am gearing up this week as I just finished a large project.
> >> I need some help.
> >> Scott Wolpow
> >>
> >> On 8/8/2010 6:54 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> >>> Hi everyone!
> >>>
> >>> How's the planning for Joomla Day New York 2010?
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> >>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com <mailto:
> helvecio.rj at gmail.com
> >>> >
> >>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> >>>
> >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>>
> >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >>
> >> --
> >> *Scott Wolpow*
> >> *718.275.7765*
> >> Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
> >> http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow <
> http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> >>
> >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >>
> >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >_______________________________________________
> >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> >
> >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> >http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> >Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
> >
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From scott at wolpow.com  Mon Aug  9 09:36:44 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 09:36:44 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Date confirmed, then?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=5eEVostV-cWn4arsFX=O-uQ5Ns8KbS4ZRMyKp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=5eEVostV-cWn4arsFX=O-uQ5Ns8KbS4ZRMyKp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C60046C.90600@wolpow.com>

Yes

On 8/9/2010 9:35 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> JDNYC will be on the Oct 16th-17th weekend?
>
> 2010/8/8 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>>
>
>     We had our dates oct 16 and 17th for months now. We are booked @
>     microsot
>
>     Ryan Ozimek <cozimek at picnet.net <mailto:cozimek at picnet.net>> wrote:
>
>     >Hi folks,
>     >
>     >Just to hop in out of the blue, the US has a JDay in SF on Oct
>     1-3 and
>     >one here in DC on Oct 16. Have you all solidified a date? If not, any
>     >chance it can be on a weekend other than those two?
>     >
>     >Cheers!
>     >
>     >Ryan
>     >
>     >Sent wirelessly.
>     >
>     >On Aug 8, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com
>     <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> I am gearing up this week as I just finished a large project.
>     >> I need some help.
>     >> Scott Wolpow
>     >>
>     >> On 8/8/2010 6:54 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>     >>> Hi everyone!
>     >>>
>     >>> How's the planning for Joomla Day New York 2010?
>     >>>
>     >>> --
>     >>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>     >>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
>     <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com> <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com
>     <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
>     >>> >
>     >>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>     >>>
>     >>> ---
>     >>>
>     ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >>>
>     >>> _______________________________________________
>     >>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>     >>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>     >>>
>     >>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>     >>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>     >>>
>     >>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>     >>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>     >>
>     >> --
>     >> *Scott Wolpow*
>     >> *718.275.7765*
>     >> Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
>     >> http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow
>     <http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010
>     >> >
>     >> _______________________________________________
>     >> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>     >> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>     >>
>     >> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>     >> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>     >>
>     >> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>     >> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>     >_______________________________________________
>     >New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>     >http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>     >
>     >NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>     >http://www.nyphpcon.com
>     >
>     >Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>     >http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>     >
>     _______________________________________________
>     New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>     http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
>     NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>     http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
>     Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>     http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow 
<http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010>


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  9 13:37:42 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 10:37:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Trivia Question of the Day: How many articles can a
	Joomla! website contain?
Message-ID: <599700.70355.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

4,294,967,295

That's 4 BILLION and change.
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From mitch.pirtle at gmail.com  Mon Aug  9 23:53:47 2010
From: mitch.pirtle at gmail.com (Mitch Pirtle)
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 23:53:47 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Trivia Question of the Day: How many articles can a
	Joomla! website contain?
In-Reply-To: <599700.70355.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <599700.70355.qm@web35607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqsbhc7fmipPLfYmy5qNcmhQXsA36JKHsqiA6j@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 1:37 PM, Donna Marie Vincent
<donnamarievincent at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 4,294,967,295
>
> That's 4 BILLION and change.

Good grief Donna, how many HOWTO articles are you going to write?!?!

-- Mitch, with a slight grin


From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 17:11:44 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:11:44 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Gantry, is it worth to learn NOW?
Message-ID: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>

I just came across Gantry.

Haven't really looked INTO it, but read 1.6 will be able to do what Gantry
does.

As a web designer, I like things that allow me to move stuff around, change
colors, place things etc.

Is J1.6 to provide the same as (or close to) Gantry?

Thanks

-- 
Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From douglas at focalizar.com.br  Tue Aug 10 17:30:07 2010
From: douglas at focalizar.com.br (Douglas Machado -Focalizar.com.br)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:30:07 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Gantry, is it worth to learn NOW?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikPCY7C5FGifZbGiLFiPkYaKM6uQCd=9_du6dwq@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Helvecio,

I have J!1.6 beta 5 installed and I've just checked and it does not seem to
have any of the Gantry features.

I'm not a fan of Gantry because I'm not a designer like yourself and mostly
because my users have to disable the Build Spans feature in order to work
with MooFAQ<http://ideal.fok.com.br/joomla-extensions/component-moofaq.html>
.

Kind regards,

Douglas Machado
Joomla Custom Software Development <http://ideal.fok.com.br>.
"*Because your steadfast love is better than life, my lips will praise you.*"
- Psalm 63:3
"*... saying what people are used to hear changes nobody*" - Pr. John Piper
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From scott at wolpow.com  Tue Aug 10 17:58:29 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:58:29 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Team development question
Message-ID: <4C61CB85.3040301@wolpow.com>

As my team and partners get more complex, I want to know who is 
available online.
The issues:
1) Not everyone has the same IM
2) Some people many not want to appear online except for other team members.

Ideally I would love to have it work with Redmine and could also serve 
to alert to changes in the project
-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010


From steve at sbritton.com  Tue Aug 10 17:59:57 2010
From: steve at sbritton.com (Stephen Britton)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 17:59:57 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Gantry, is it worth to learn NOW?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>

Gantry and Joomla! 1.6 are two different animals.

Gantry is a free template created by Rocket Theme. It is based on the
960 Grid System. http://960.gs
Basically, it is a Joomla template covered with modules. I have tested
it and it's fun to experiment, but I would never use it for a project
because it would require too much modification. I find it easier to
code a custom template than to work with Gantry.

As you know from using Joomla. A Joomla template is only two files -
index.php and template.css (I don't want to forget the XML file too!).
And if you have a good understanding of CSS and where to place the
jdoc files, anything is possible in Joomla.

As for Joomla 1.6. I have been too busy to download the beta, but I
have heard that most Joomla 1.5 templates work in Joomla 1.6 or will
work with minor modification. I think the big improvements with 1.6
are geared more towards developers and end users than designers. Among
the additions (and subtractions) are extended ACL (access control
levels), elimination of the three level category system, a revised and
renamed front page manager, and many other things that I can wait to
try out :-)

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just came across Gantry.
>
> Haven't really looked INTO it, but read 1.6 will be able to do what Gantry
> does.
>
> As a web designer, I like things that allow me to move stuff around, change
> colors, place things etc.
>
> Is J1.6 to provide the same as (or close to) Gantry?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
ph: 914-661-0040


From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 10 18:52:20 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:52:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Gantry, is it worth to learn NOW?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <56329.36580.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I think he's referring to the new template structure and functions available in 
1.6 vs. Gantry.





________________________________
From: Stephen Britton <steve at sbritton.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 5:59:57 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Gantry, is it worth to learn NOW?

Gantry and Joomla! 1.6 are two different animals.

Gantry is a free template created by Rocket Theme. It is based on the
960 Grid System. http://960.gs
Basically, it is a Joomla template covered with modules. I have tested
it and it's fun to experiment, but I would never use it for a project
because it would require too much modification. I find it easier to
code a custom template than to work with Gantry.

As you know from using Joomla. A Joomla template is only two files -
index.php and template.css (I don't want to forget the XML file too!).
And if you have a good understanding of CSS and where to place the
jdoc files, anything is possible in Joomla.

As for Joomla 1.6. I have been too busy to download the beta, but I
have heard that most Joomla 1.5 templates work in Joomla 1.6 or will
work with minor modification. I think the big improvements with 1.6
are geared more towards developers and end users than designers. Among
the additions (and subtractions) are extended ACL (access control
levels), elimination of the three level category system, a revised and
renamed front page manager, and many other things that I can wait to
try out :-)

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Helv?cio da Silva
<helvecio.rj at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just came across Gantry.
>
> Haven't really looked INTO it, but read 1.6 will be able to do what Gantry
> does.
>
> As a web designer, I like things that allow me to move stuff around, change
> colors, place things etc.
>
> Is J1.6 to provide the same as (or close to) Gantry?
>
> Thanks
>
> --
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



-- 
Stephen Britton
Technology Consultant
sbritton at gmail.com
ph: 914-661-0040
_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From kimberly at kubalek.com  Tue Aug 10 19:11:16 2010
From: kimberly at kubalek.com (Kimberly Ann Kubalek)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 16:11:16 -0700
Subject: [joomla] =?utf-8?q?Gantry=2C_is_it_worth_to_learn_NOW=3F?=
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From garyamort at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 19:20:43 2010
From: garyamort at gmail.com (Gary Mort)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 19:20:43 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Gantry, is it worth to learn NOW?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhivtt-sumey-Z0Qd4h_+5zeJJn5iOfzxvj7gr@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>wrote:

> I just came across Gantry.
>
> Haven't really looked INTO it, but read 1.6 will be able to do what Gantry
> does.
>
> As a web designer, I like things that allow me to move stuff around, change
> colors, place things etc.
>
> Is J1.6 to provide the same as (or close to) Gantry?
>

My experience with all these template frameworks is that their a nightmare
to work with.  Instead of dealing with a few php files and a few css files,
suddenly you have css files being included in other css files dynamically
and a whole new system to learn.

I figure if I am going to learn a whole new system, I'd rather learn
something more generic like HAML and CSScafold....  at least then instead of
inventing my own system from cloth, I'd be using an existing system with
rules and such.
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From bbly1956 at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 20:50:28 2010
From: bbly1956 at gmail.com (William Bly)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 20:50:28 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Hosting Rochen
Message-ID: <AANLkTinY6rn0Dm99k1VgBknbpZ4kU9FpJb80gf8qWCM3@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone have experience using Rochen? We used akeeba to move a site
there and now the editors are not working?
Joomla FCK "The server didn't reply with a proper XML data. Please check
your configuration."
Joomla CK - link path are incorrect. Rochen "it is a scripting problem"
The same site was also moved to another server and works fine.

We chose Rochen for security but if we can't use the editors or link
properly we are stuck.

Anyone with a similar experience moving a site anywhere? thanks - Bill
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From sgubing at gmail.com  Tue Aug 10 21:04:11 2010
From: sgubing at gmail.com (Susan Gubing)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:04:11 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>

I am a new user to Joomla and I am
looking for a source to either create or
download templates. 
My friend referred me to
www.artisteer.com.  

Is this a good choice or should I be
exploring other sources first. 

Sue G. 



From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 10 21:23:31 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:23:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Hosting Rochen
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinY6rn0Dm99k1VgBknbpZ4kU9FpJb80gf8qWCM3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinY6rn0Dm99k1VgBknbpZ4kU9FpJb80gf8qWCM3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <419757.28564.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's interesting because I had some strange problems with them years ago, and 
I moved back to my current host.

On another note, I would recommend using JCE Editor over JoomlaFCK.  I used to 
use JoomlaFCK until I realized how good JCE was and all the options available.






________________________________
From: William Bly <bbly1956 at gmail.com>
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 8:50:28 PM
Subject: [joomla] Hosting Rochen

Does anyone have experience using Rochen? We used akeeba to move a site there 
and now the editors are not working?
Joomla FCK "The server didn't reply with a proper XML data. Please check your 
configuration."
Joomla CK - link path are incorrect. Rochen "it is a scripting problem"
The same site was also moved to another server and works fine.

We chose Rochen for security but if we can't use the editors or link properly we 
are stuck.

Anyone with a similar experience moving a site anywhere? thanks - Bill
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 10 21:24:11 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 18:24:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5
In-Reply-To: <00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
	<00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
Message-ID: <356366.48195.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Try RocketTheme's free templates.  www.rockettheme.com





________________________________
From: Susan Gubing <sgubing at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 9:04:11 PM
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5

I am a new user to Joomla and I am
looking for a source to either create or
download templates. 
My friend referred me to
www.artisteer.com.  

Is this a good choice or should I be
exploring other sources first. 

Sue G. 

_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

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From info at elevindesign.com  Wed Aug 11 09:07:02 2010
From: info at elevindesign.com (Sandra Levin)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 08:07:02 -0500
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5
In-Reply-To: <00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
	<00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
Message-ID: <AF176C27-8927-4D15-AF05-10B527D2F055@elevindesign.com>

Hi Sue and welcome to Joomla! 

I've used Artistseer for many templates and as you learn more about css and other aspects of template design, it's a great tool to get started. Many are far more advanced with Artistseer than I am and you can browse their gallery. 

There's many sites like Rockettheme, JoomlaPraise, JoomlaBamboo to find templates, some are free and some are by subscription.

Had to do over, I would have started with Rockettheme and Artistseer, personally.

Sandra


On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Susan Gubing wrote:

> I am a new user to Joomla and I am
> looking for a source to either create or
> download templates. 
> My friend referred me to
> www.artisteer.com.  
> 
> Is this a good choice or should I be
> exploring other sources first. 
> 
> Sue G. 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> 
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
> 
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From lgi at lgisl.com  Wed Aug 11 10:20:42 2010
From: lgi at lgisl.com (lgi)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 16:20:42 +0200
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5
In-Reply-To: <AF176C27-8927-4D15-AF05-10B527D2F055@elevindesign.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
	<00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
	<AF176C27-8927-4D15-AF05-10B527D2F055@elevindesign.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimQT9fjcPGZKErpMKKRoKGyHHgD+0wkWGwuuEvb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Sorry but I prefer www.joomlart.com or www.gavick.com, i don't like the
Artistseer results. ;( we found the commercial templates more professionals
and for me is better use a commercial template and modify than anything
maked with Artistserr.

You can find all the templates clubs and free templates in
www.bestofjoomla.com

Regards
Lucas


On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Sandra Levin <info at elevindesign.com> wrote:

> Hi Sue and welcome to Joomla!
>
> I've used Artistseer for many templates and as you learn more about css and
> other aspects of template design, it's a great tool to get started. Many are
> far more advanced with Artistseer than I am and you can browse their
> gallery.
>
> There's many sites like Rockettheme, JoomlaPraise, JoomlaBamboo to find
> templates, some are free and some are by subscription.
>
> Had to do over, I would have started with Rockettheme and Artistseer,
> personally.
>
> Sandra
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Susan Gubing wrote:
>
> > I am a new user to Joomla and I am
> > looking for a source to either create or
> > download templates.
> > My friend referred me to
> > www.artisteer.com.
> >
> > Is this a good choice or should I be
> > exploring other sources first.
> >
> > Sue G.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> > http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
> >
> > NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> > http://www.nyphpcon.com
> >
> > Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> > http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
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>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From douglas at focalizar.com.br  Wed Aug 11 10:35:01 2010
From: douglas at focalizar.com.br (Douglas Machado -Focalizar.com.br)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:35:01 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimQT9fjcPGZKErpMKKRoKGyHHgD+0wkWGwuuEvb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com> 
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com> 
	<00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
	<AF176C27-8927-4D15-AF05-10B527D2F055@elevindesign.com> 
	<AANLkTimQT9fjcPGZKErpMKKRoKGyHHgD+0wkWGwuuEvb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=jccZaOMmgMR3a0gLqqR-5YEjzMQHrmCXSOgum@mail.gmail.com>

I like JoomlArt
Templates<http://www.joomlart.com/affiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=1191_0_1_15>,
because they use the Joomla framework and don't add JQuery or hard code
MooTools 1.2.4 to their templates.

I don't want to discuss which JS library is better, but I suggest you to run
away from Joomla templates that use other javascript libraries other than
MooTools, which is the default default javascript library for Joomla.
I've had many problems with some templates loading over 300Kb of javascript,
which for me is just unacceptable.

Kind regards,

Douglas Machado
Joomla Custom Software Development <http://ideal.fok.com.br>.
"*Because your steadfast love is better than life, my lips will praise you.*"
- Psalm 63:3
"*... saying what people are used to hear changes nobody*" - Pr. John Piper



On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 11:20 AM, lgi <lgi at lgisl.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Sorry but I prefer www.joomlart.com or www.gavick.com, i don't like the
> Artistseer results. ;( we found the commercial templates more professionals
> and for me is better use a commercial template and modify than anything
> maked with Artistserr.
>
> You can find all the templates clubs and free templates in
> www.bestofjoomla.com
>
> Regards
> Lucas
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 3:07 PM, Sandra Levin <info at elevindesign.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Sue and welcome to Joomla!
>>
>> I've used Artistseer for many templates and as you learn more about css
>> and other aspects of template design, it's a great tool to get started. Many
>> are far more advanced with Artistseer than I am and you can browse their
>> gallery.
>>
>> There's many sites like Rockettheme, JoomlaPraise, JoomlaBamboo to find
>> templates, some are free and some are by subscription.
>>
>> Had to do over, I would have started with Rockettheme and Artistseer,
>> personally.
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Susan Gubing wrote:
>>
>> > I am a new user to Joomla and I am
>> > looking for a source to either create or
>> > download templates.
>> > My friend referred me to
>> > www.artisteer.com.
>> >
>> > Is this a good choice or should I be
>> > exploring other sources first.
>> >
>> > Sue G.
>>
>
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From li_gordon at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 11 15:06:48 2010
From: li_gordon at yahoo.com (Laura Gordon)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:06:48 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5
In-Reply-To: <00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
	<00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
Message-ID: <683298.93438.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm a big fan of:

www.yootheme.com
www.joomlashack.com

The yootheme templates are beautiful out of the box.  

The joomlashack templates are a little more 'flat', however they are very easy 
to edit and modify if you know css, especially optimuspro, it is amazing what 
can be done with a simple template.

-- Laura

 

www.RytechSites.com
Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS 
Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH 
....the choice is yours!
Member of the NYC Joomla User Group...www.JoomlaNYC.org





________________________________
From: Susan Gubing <sgubing at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 9:04:11 PM
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5

I am a new user to Joomla and I am
looking for a source to either create or
download templates. 
My friend referred me to
www.artisteer.com.  

Is this a good choice or should I be
exploring other sources first. 

Sue G. 

_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 11 23:02:32 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 20:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5
In-Reply-To: <683298.93438.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTimE-QYhGCPB291F3T=nCOMTcXfEvFBAuGdj06rk@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTikbMS2i_3S34gnCaX=k2QEYhgU4i2B6qwpPtY91@mail.gmail.com>
	<00b601cb38f1$1c36ac50$54a404f0$@com>
	<683298.93438.qm@web31805.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <961226.89448.qm@web35605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have tried RocketTheme, YooTheme, JoomlaPraise, and JoomlaBamboo.  

I have had much better luck working with YooTheme than any of the others.  

However, RocketTheme's support is incredible.  

YooTheme's support is smart-alecky.  

The recent JoomlaBamboo template I used was buggy, had to submit bug reports.





________________________________
From: Laura Gordon <li_gordon at yahoo.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Wed, August 11, 2010 3:06:48 PM
Subject: Re: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5


I'm a big fan of:

www.yootheme.com
www.joomlashack.com

The yootheme templates are beautiful out of the box.  

The joomlashack templates are a little more 'flat', however they are very easy 
to edit and modify if you know css, especially optimuspro, it is amazing what 
can be done with a simple template.

-- Laura

 

www.RytechSites.com
Create Dynamic Websites for your Company with Joomla! CMS 
Create Captivating Websites for your Business with HTML/FLASH 
....the choice is yours!
Member of the NYC Joomla User Group...www.JoomlaNYC.org





________________________________
From: Susan Gubing <sgubing at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Tue, August 10, 2010 9:04:11 PM
Subject: [joomla] Templates for Joomla 1.5

I am a new user to Joomla and I am
looking for a source to either create or
download templates. 
My friend referred me to
www.artisteer.com.  

Is this a good choice or should I be
exploring other sources first. 

Sue G. 

_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
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From scott at wolpow.com  Fri Aug 13 10:16:33 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:16:33 -0400
Subject: [joomla] DT Donate
Message-ID: <4C6553C1.2090608@wolpow.com>

I am using the latest paid  DT Donate with Authorize.net as Gateway. DT 
Donate is not recording the transactions, which is vital. I posted to 
support, which is usually pretty fast in response. The one response only 
addressed if I was using PayPal. Their forums also show other with same 
issue and no solution.
If anyone has fixed this please let me know what you did.

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010


From drgenelmt at gmail.com  Fri Aug 13 18:08:49 2010
From: drgenelmt at gmail.com (Gene Desepoli, LMT, D.C.)
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:08:49 -0400
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 44, Issue 14
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1281715201.6114.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.1.1281715201.6114.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <4C65C271.4090805@gmail.com>

Hi,
I had posted an earlier question but need clarification.
I am interviewing people to create a php-MySQL Quiz program.
I am not sure if it will be better to have them create a Joomla module 
and component or if a separate
core php website would be easier.

I am aware that there are several quiz components for Joomla, but they 
really don't have the
functionality that I desire.

I would like a pop-up quiz that displays one question at a time then 
displays feedback after that.

Would there be any significant limitations if this were to be created 
inside Joomla?
Any suggestions woudl be most welcome.

Thanks,
Gene



On 8/13/10 12:00 PM, joomla-request at lists.nyphp.org wrote:
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2010 10:16:33 -0400
> From: Scott Wolpow<scott at wolpow.com>
> To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla<joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> Subject: [joomla] DT Donate
> Message-ID:<4C6553C1.2090608 at wolpow.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I am using the latest paid  DT Donate with Authorize.net as Gateway. DT
> Donate is not recording the transactions, which is vital. I posted to
> support, which is usually pretty fast in response. The one response only
> addressed if I was using PayPal. Their forums also show other with same
> issue and no solution.
> If anyone has fixed this please let me know what you did.
>
>    


From scott at wolpow.com  Sun Aug 15 14:35:22 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 14:35:22 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
Message-ID: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>

Using com_content  for some reason when I get past 18 characters the 
text vanishes.
Any idea why?
-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010


From lgi at lgisl.com  Sun Aug 15 15:29:47 2010
From: lgi at lgisl.com (lgi)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 21:29:47 +0200
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Scott,

Try to setup another editor to isolate the problem

Regards
Lucas


On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

> com_content
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From scott at wolpow.com  Sun Aug 15 15:47:58 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 15:47:58 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C68446E.1090301@wolpow.com>

That would not be the cause as it is a front end issue.
The same template is being used on a second site without any issue.
SW

On 8/15/2010 3:29 PM, lgi wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> Try to setup another editor to isolate the problem
>
> Regards
> Lucas
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com 
> <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>> wrote:
>
>     com_content
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010


From scott at wolpow.com  Sun Aug 15 16:25:42 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 16:25:42 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C684D46.8070105@wolpow.com>

I also changed the template, same issue.
No one has access to the site, but me.
Not a permission issue.
Scott


On 8/15/2010 3:29 PM, lgi wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> Try to setup another editor to isolate the problem
>
> Regards
> Lucas
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com 
> <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>> wrote:
>
>     com_content
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010


From scott at wolpow.com  Sun Aug 15 18:58:37 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2010 18:58:37 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C68711D.7030009@wolpow.com>

Got it to work by reloading Joomla.
SW

On 8/15/2010 3:29 PM, lgi wrote:
> Hi Scott,
>
> Try to setup another editor to isolate the problem
>
> Regards
> Lucas
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com 
> <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>> wrote:
>
>     com_content
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php

-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010


From masimko at verizon.net  Tue Aug 17 01:07:48 2010
From: masimko at verizon.net (Mark Simko)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 01:07:48 -0400
Subject: [joomla] various questions
Message-ID: <1282021668.12843.11.camel@bokonen.NUTZ>

I need to make changes to a website that is using mosets tree.

I need to stop the system from emailing the administrator whenever a new
user registers on the website. I didn't find any setting to turn this
off. Perhaps I missed it somewhere. I'm thinking that I have to override
the com_user view to stop this.

I also want to change the onscreen registration greeting. I want it to
greet the new registrant by their user name and not their real name.
Again, best to override com_user view?

I'm using JCE for the editor for registered users to post. I've stripped
it down a bit. Problem with it is that it uses a <br /> for carriage
returns. I want it to use <p />. Even though I set that int the JCE
configuration, it seems to always use <br />. Any ideas on how to change
this behavior?

Thanks,
Mark



From james.nt at ameexusa.com  Tue Aug 17 01:38:37 2010
From: james.nt at ameexusa.com (James)
Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:08:37 +0530
Subject: [joomla] various questions
In-Reply-To: <1282021668.12843.11.camel@bokonen.NUTZ>
References: <1282021668.12843.11.camel@bokonen.NUTZ>
Message-ID: <002501cb3dce$71180cf0$534826d0$@nt@ameexusa.com>

Hi,

For all Joomla development and maintenance work and any customization please
feel free to contact us at http://www.joomlageeks.com. Joomla Geeks is a
Chicago based Content Management Solution Provider with a strong and
experienced team of PHP programmers.

Thanks
James


-----Original Message-----
From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Mark Simko
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:38 AM
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: [joomla] various questions

I need to make changes to a website that is using mosets tree.

I need to stop the system from emailing the administrator whenever a new
user registers on the website. I didn't find any setting to turn this
off. Perhaps I missed it somewhere. I'm thinking that I have to override
the com_user view to stop this.

I also want to change the onscreen registration greeting. I want it to
greet the new registrant by their user name and not their real name.
Again, best to override com_user view?

I'm using JCE for the editor for registered users to post. I've stripped
it down a bit. Problem with it is that it uses a <br /> for carriage
returns. I want it to use <p />. Even though I set that int the JCE
configuration, it seems to always use <br />. Any ideas on how to change
this behavior?

Thanks,
Mark

_______________________________________________
New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla

NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
http://www.nyphpcon.com

Show Your Participation in New York PHP
http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php



From masimko at verizon.net  Wed Aug 18 16:13:09 2010
From: masimko at verizon.net (Mark Simko)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:13:09 -0400
Subject: [joomla] various questions
Message-ID: <1282162389.10618.3.camel@bokonen.NUTZ>

I'm on the trail of how to override the com_user component. Hey, I know
this guy ;)

http://www.alltogetherasawhole.org/profiles/blogs/overriding-the-logic-in-core

Hi,

For all Joomla development and maintenance work and any customization please
feel free to contact us at http://www.joomlageeks.com. Joomla Geeks is a
Chicago based Content Management Solution Provider with a strong and
experienced team of PHP programmers.

Thanks
James


-----Original Message-----
From: joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org [mailto:joomla-bounces at lists.nyphp.org]
On Behalf Of Mark Simko
Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 10:38 AM
To: joomla at lists.nyphp.org
Subject: [joomla] various questions

I need to make changes to a website that is using mosets tree.

I need to stop the system from emailing the administrator whenever a new
user registers on the website. I didn't find any setting to turn this
off. Perhaps I missed it somewhere. I'm thinking that I have to override
the com_user view to stop this.

I also want to change the onscreen registration greeting. I want it to
greet the new registrant by their user name and not their real name.
Again, best to override com_user view?

I'm using JCE for the editor for registered users to post. I've stripped
it down a bit. Problem with it is that it uses a <br /> for carriage
returns. I want it to use <p />. Even though I set that int the JCE
configuration, it seems to always use <br />. Any ideas on how to change
this behavior?

Thanks,
Mark



From masimko at verizon.net  Wed Aug 18 18:18:48 2010
From: masimko at verizon.net (Mark Simko)
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 18:18:48 -0400
Subject: [joomla] various questions
Message-ID: <1282169928.15791.2.camel@bokonen.NUTZ>

Core hack as found here:
http://www.zymic.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15372

until I can figure out how to override a component controller.



From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Thu Aug 19 12:52:36 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:52:36 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Joomla Day NYC: looking for informations
Message-ID: <AANLkTimer1iGrQ6je2xYPes8P3LaY=K3xD5hpZNw4vhn@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone!

I've just checked www.joomladaynyc.com looking for info on Joomla Day NYC
2010 but it's outdated.

Where can I get informations about the event, registration fees, workshops
etc?

Thanks in advance!

2010/8/9 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>

> Yes
>
>
> On 8/9/2010 9:35 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>
>> JDNYC will be on the Oct 16th-17th weekend?
>>
>> 2010/8/8 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>>
>>
>>
>>    We had our dates oct 16 and 17th for months now. We are booked @
>>    microsot
>>
>>
>>
>
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Fri Aug 20 06:35:06 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:35:06 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <4C68711D.7030009@wolpow.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C68711D.7030009@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=+gjwB+joVOiPy4MNwMt5=H-cJuEATCSZzaPmB@mail.gmail.com>

What exactly do you mean by "reloading Joomla"?

Reloading the page?

2010/8/15 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com>

> Got it to work by reloading Joomla.
> SW
>


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From scott at wolpow.com  Fri Aug 20 07:53:40 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:53:40 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=+gjwB+joVOiPy4MNwMt5=H-cJuEATCSZzaPmB@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>	<AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>	<4C68711D.7030009@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTi=+gjwB+joVOiPy4MNwMt5=H-cJuEATCSZzaPmB@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C6E6CC4.9040006@wolpow.com>

I just started from scratch. Do not have time to figure out what caused 
the issue.
SW

On 8/20/2010 6:35 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> What exactly do you mean by "reloading Joomla"?
>
> Reloading the page?
>
> 2010/8/15 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>>
>
>     Got it to work by reloading Joomla.
>     SW
>
>
>
> -- 
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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From chris at theendrecords.com  Fri Aug 20 10:46:27 2010
From: chris at theendrecords.com (Chris French)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 10:46:27 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <4C6E6CC4.9040006@wolpow.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C68711D.7030009@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTi=+gjwB+joVOiPy4MNwMt5=H-cJuEATCSZzaPmB@mail.gmail.com>
	<4C6E6CC4.9040006@wolpow.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTinhfCcSYhQMMpYeiCgYr09Dw7Os-aG5p4ycq6Em@mail.gmail.com>

I am pretty sure he means, uploading the files again like you would with an
upgrade.

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:

> I just started from scratch. Do not have time to figure out what caused the
> issue.
> SW
>
>
> On 8/20/2010 6:35 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>
>> What exactly do you mean by "reloading Joomla"?
>>
>> Reloading the page?
>>
>> 2010/8/15 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>>
>>
>>
>>    Got it to work by reloading Joomla.
>>    SW
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com <mailto:
>> helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
>>
>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>
> --
> *Scott Wolpow*
> *718.275.7765*
> Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
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From scott at wolpow.com  Fri Aug 20 11:30:32 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 11:30:32 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
Message-ID: <wlu8frgkh1evvd0pok1pi8yf.1282318232594@email.android.com>

I did a fresh install.

Chris French <chris at theendrecords.com> wrote:

>I am pretty sure he means, uploading the files again like you would with an
>upgrade.
>
>On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com> wrote:
>
>> I just started from scratch. Do not have time to figure out what caused the
>> issue.
>> SW
>>
>>
>> On 8/20/2010 6:35 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>>
>>> What exactly do you mean by "reloading Joomla"?
>>>
>>> Reloading the page?
>>>
>>> 2010/8/15 Scott Wolpow <scott at wolpow.com <mailto:scott at wolpow.com>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Got it to work by reloading Joomla.
>>>    SW
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com <mailto:
>>> helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>>
>>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>>
>>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>>
>>
>> --
>> *Scott Wolpow*
>> *718.275.7765*
>> Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
>> http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>
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From scott at wolpow.com  Fri Aug 20 12:48:43 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 12:48:43 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Truly Weird problem
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinhfCcSYhQMMpYeiCgYr09Dw7Os-aG5p4ycq6Em@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4C68336A.9050607@wolpow.com>	<AANLkTinv+mt-H+g43Kn2a+ju3Qod8oDgOmdnuWDm6OZS@mail.gmail.com>	<4C68711D.7030009@wolpow.com>	<AANLkTi=+gjwB+joVOiPy4MNwMt5=H-cJuEATCSZzaPmB@mail.gmail.com>	<4C6E6CC4.9040006@wolpow.com>
	<AANLkTinhfCcSYhQMMpYeiCgYr09Dw7Os-aG5p4ycq6Em@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C6EB1EB.3050304@wolpow.com>

The total history::
I first noticed a problem that articles were not displaying, under one 
menu class. Articles were displaying everywhere else.
Now ion all other cases there was no real content, so I just had a 
couple of characters so I could save the article.
In testing the same articles in the other menus they also did not appear.
I the template I was using worked fine on another site I had just 
built.. The main difference was that in one case I uploaded via ftp the 
Joomla core and in the problem site I used command line. That should not 
be an issue. The two sites were on different machines.
I then uploaded com_contents from scratch. Still nothing. I uploaded the 
entire core again and still nothing.
I then realized that one article was showing. It was on I had added. It 
also had just a few characters. I soon learned that it was the amount of 
characters (19).
I switched servers and still had the same issue.

Finally I decided to start from scratch. I will preserve the weird 
installs and try and find the issue.


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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 10:45:40 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:45:40 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage
Message-ID: <AANLkTikZgLOg0__LJR+5XF38tdo03=V+bGm0GYwWFAQj@mail.gmail.com>

I used to have a small tutorial on how to do this, but I lost it.

I have a 3-collumn layout and I want the left collumn to dissapear entirely
on the front page. The content collumn should flow to the left and take the
space left.

How can I do that? Help please!

Thanks in advance!

-- 
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Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From donnamarievincent at yahoo.com  Sat Aug 21 10:55:10 2010
From: donnamarievincent at yahoo.com (Donna Marie Vincent)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:55:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikZgLOg0__LJR+5XF38tdo03=V+bGm0GYwWFAQj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikZgLOg0__LJR+5XF38tdo03=V+bGm0GYwWFAQj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <741825.51203.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

As long as you don't have any modules published in that column for that page, 
the column should collapse.  Unless you're using a very old template that 
doesn't allow for collapsing module positions.

Go to Module Manager and see if there are any modules published to "All" pages.  
If there are not, filter the list by the name of the left column (usually 
"left"), and open each one to make sure it's not set to display on the home 
page.






________________________________
From: Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
To: NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
Sent: Sat, August 21, 2010 10:45:40 AM
Subject: [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage

I used to have a small tutorial on how to do this, but I lost it.

I have a 3-collumn layout and I want the left collumn to dissapear entirely on 
the front page. The content collumn should flow to the left and take the space 
left.

How can I do that? Help please!

Thanks in advance!

-- 
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Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 11:10:30 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 12:10:30 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage
In-Reply-To: <741825.51203.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <AANLkTikZgLOg0__LJR+5XF38tdo03=V+bGm0GYwWFAQj@mail.gmail.com>
	<741825.51203.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimYCLuCTj1Af-1+6SXAMRj=paaOPkDCMXfx4jQf@mail.gmail.com>

Actually I'd live the <div id="left"> tag to dissappear entirely, when there
is no module assigned to it.

2010/8/21 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>

> As long as you don't have any modules published in that column for that
> page, the column should collapse.  Unless you're using a very old template
> that doesn't allow for collapsing module positions.
>
> Go to Module Manager and see if there are any modules published to "All"
> pages.  If there are not, filter the list by the name of the left column
> (usually "left"), and open each one to make sure it's not set to display on
> the home page.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
> *Sent:* Sat, August 21, 2010 10:45:40 AM
> *Subject:* [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage
>
> I used to have a small tutorial on how to do this, but I lost it.
>
> I have a 3-collumn layout and I want the left collumn to dissapear entirely
> on the front page. The content collumn should flow to the left and take the
> space left.
>
> How can I do that? Help please!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>



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From nyphp at zooluserver.com  Sat Aug 21 11:30:05 2010
From: nyphp at zooluserver.com (Paul Bouzakis)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 11:30:05 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimYCLuCTj1Af-1+6SXAMRj=paaOPkDCMXfx4jQf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikZgLOg0__LJR+5XF38tdo03=V+bGm0GYwWFAQj@mail.gmail.com>	<741825.51203.qm@web35604.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTimYCLuCTj1Af-1+6SXAMRj=paaOPkDCMXfx4jQf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4C6FF0FD.40809@zooluserver.com>

You should use $this->countModules('left') in template to conditionally 
render the div.

On 8/21/2010 11:10 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
> Actually I'd live the <div id="left"> tag to dissappear entirely, when 
> there is no module assigned to it.
>
> 2010/8/21 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com 
> <mailto:donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>>
>
>     As long as you don't have any modules published in that column for
>     that page, the column should collapse.  Unless you're using a very
>     old template that doesn't allow for collapsing module positions.
>
>     Go to Module Manager and see if there are any modules published to
>     "All" pages.  If there are not, filter the list by the name of the
>     left column (usually "left"), and open each one to make sure it's
>     not set to display on the home page.
>
>
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     *From:* Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com
>     <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>>
>     *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org
>     <mailto:joomla at lists.nyphp.org>>
>     *Sent:* Sat, August 21, 2010 10:45:40 AM
>     *Subject:* [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage
>
>     I used to have a small tutorial on how to do this, but I lost it.
>
>     I have a 3-collumn layout and I want the left collumn to dissapear
>     entirely on the front page. The content collumn should flow to the
>     left and take the space left.
>
>     How can I do that? Help please!
>
>     Thanks in advance!
>
>     -- 
>     Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>     Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
>     <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
>     http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>     http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
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>
>     Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>     http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
>
>
> -- 
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> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com 
> <mailto:helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From helvecio.rj at gmail.com  Sat Aug 21 12:09:24 2010
From: helvecio.rj at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Helv=C3=A9cio_da_Silva?=)
Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2010 13:09:24 -0300
Subject: [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage RESOLVED
Message-ID: <AANLkTinaOFX9cw+d3SHXrFVn3QYWN4H3xqAwFfncNKyb@mail.gmail.com>

Just found the answer.

<?php if (JRequest::getVar('view') != 'frontpage'): ?>
<div id="xxxx">
<jdoc:include type="component" />
</div>
<?php endif ?>

SOOO easy! Works like a charm!

2010/8/21 Paul Bouzakis <nyphp at zooluserver.com>

>  You should use $this->countModules('left') in template to conditionally
> render the div.
>
>
> On 8/21/2010 11:10 AM, Helv?cio da Silva wrote:
>
> Actually I'd live the <div id="left"> tag to dissappear entirely, when
> there is no module assigned to it.
>
> 2010/8/21 Donna Marie Vincent <donnamarievincent at yahoo.com>
>
>>  As long as you don't have any modules published in that column for that
>> page, the column should collapse.  Unless you're using a very old template
>> that doesn't allow for collapsing module positions.
>>
>> Go to Module Manager and see if there are any modules published to "All"
>> pages.  If there are not, filter the list by the name of the left column
>> (usually "left"), and open each one to make sure it's not set to display on
>> the home page.
>>
>>
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Helv?cio da Silva <helvecio.rj at gmail.com>
>> *To:* NYPHP SIG: Joomla <joomla at lists.nyphp.org>
>> *Sent:* Sat, August 21, 2010 10:45:40 AM
>> *Subject:* [joomla] Hiding a column on frontpage
>>
>> I used to have a small tutorial on how to do this, but I lost it.
>>
>> I have a 3-collumn layout and I want the left collumn to dissapear
>> entirely on the front page. The content collumn should flow to the left and
>> take the space left.
>>
>> How can I do that? Help please!
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> --
>> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
>> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
>> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>>
>> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
>> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>>
>> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
>> http://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Helvecio "Elvis" da Silva
> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - helvecio.rj at gmail.com
> http://www.helvecio.com - http://blog.helvecio.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing Listhttp://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Onlinehttp://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHPhttp://www.nyphp.org/show_participation.php
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> New York PHP SIG: Joomla! Mailing List
> http://lists.nyphp.org/mailman/listinfo/joomla
>
> NYPHPCon 2006 Presentations Online
> http://www.nyphpcon.com
>
> Show Your Participation in New York PHP
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From scott at wolpow.com  Mon Aug 30 12:19:04 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 12:19:04 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Reminder
Message-ID: <4C7BD9F8.2050902@wolpow.com>

conference call at 2:00
dedicated dial-in number
1 (218) 862-6420
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385-6706
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From scott at wolpow.com  Mon Aug 30 14:54:01 2010
From: scott at wolpow.com (Scott Wolpow)
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:54:01 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Speakers Wanted
Message-ID: <4C7BFE49.1060707@wolpow.com>

The New York Joomla Users Group is looking for speakers for our Joomla 
Day Weekend. [Currently Oct 16th and 17th]
We need speakers on various topics
Your should be able to give a presentation for 45 minutes and know your 
topic. Please let us know f you have given talks before
Please reply to scott at joomladaynyc.com
Beginner Joomla
   This is for people just beginning.
                     Topics include:
                            Choosing a template
                             Making changes to a template,
                             Module positioning
                             Installation- common errors and mistakes
                             Finding Components
Intermediate Joomla
     This is people beginning to develop for themselves and who modify code
                         Creating your own templates
                         Setting up a development platform
                         testing and bug fixing

                         Customizing templates
                         Advanced design issues

Advanced Joomla
      People who want to build their own components or extension and 
want to contribute to the core
                            Understanding the core libraries
                             Building Plugins

Business Joomla
                 For Business decision makers
                             Finding A host
                             What can Joomla do for your business
                             Joomla vs Wordpress vs Drupal The 
advantages of each

                 For people who want to make money from Joomla
                         Sound business practices
                         Creating a bid
                         Collecting Money
                         Your rights
                         Designing fro Joomla- Graphic Artists prospective

Jamming Joomla

Bugfest
-- 
*Scott Wolpow*
*718.275.7765*
Please Help Me Raise Money for MS
http://main.nationalmssociety.org/goto/scottwolpow2010


From mkonop at gmail.com  Tue Aug 31 12:18:39 2010
From: mkonop at gmail.com (Mkonop)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:18:39 -0400
Subject: [joomla] joomla Digest, Vol 44, Issue 22
In-Reply-To: <mailman.5.1283270401.17541.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
References: <mailman.5.1283270401.17541.joomla@lists.nyphp.org>
Message-ID: <47DB5047-7C38-4C0F-AF28-0234431F45B1@gmail.com>

Sorry, no conference call for me- down the shore.

Sent from my iPhone


From cfeckels at gmail.com  Tue Aug 31 14:43:54 2010
From: cfeckels at gmail.com (Christian Eckels)
Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:43:54 -0400
Subject: [joomla] Joomla Newbie
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinK_RD=wSan+5V6GHtxtysye-=J5V94Lk-oiHMt@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinK_RD=wSan+5V6GHtxtysye-=J5V94Lk-oiHMt@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=8fFQ0LwUZ3NFLG4YfNbvQ==Q38ytJqQVOuye=@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all -

What is a good online resource that can address newbie problems?  I'm
building a site using various modules, (menus, image sliders, etc).  I'd
like that when the user clicks on an option from a drop down menu, the
selected article is slightly redesigned.  (Specifically colors, backgrounds,
icon specific to that selected article..  The actual structure from the main
page does not change).

Thanks! Looking forward to replies...
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